#12 Dr Thebe Ikalafeng - The African who travelled from his small town in Kimberley, to the top of Kilimanjaro, to the rest of the continent.
5 December 2024
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1 Guest Bio
Thebe Ikalafeng is an award-winning pan-African marketer and brand strategist, who is widely recognised as the leading advocate of a brand-led African renaissance. He believes Africa’s brands - and all they represent about the innovative spirit, resilience and creative nature of Africans across the continent - are particularly effective in creating a positive image of the continent and are fundamental to its economic growth.
Thebe kick-started his career in marketing with multi-national Colgate-Palmolive in New York, following the completion of his BSc in Business Administration (cum laude) in 1992, and his Master in Business Administration at Marquette University in the United States in 1993.
In February 1994 he returned to South Africa to work for the Colgate-Palmolive office in Johannesburg, and worked for Sun International, among other corporates, before becoming the Chief Marketing Officer for Nike in Africa in 1996. At Nike he would go on to win numerous local and international awards with the Johannesburg-based ad agency The Jupiter Drawing Room for their pioneering Nike campaigns that promoted South Africa’s Rugby World Cup winners, the Springboks.
Thebe left Nike in 2002 to start his own company the Brand Leadership Group, the first African-founded specialist branding agency that to this day is committed to ‘building, growing and protecting brands in Africa’. Under his leadership, the company has shaped the identities of major organisations and institutions, including MTN, Transnet and the African Union, as well as several African governments.
He went on to establish Brand Africa in 2009 as a ‘non-profit non-governmental vehicle to proactively drive a brand-led African agenda’. Brand Africa officially launched in 2010 with the Brand Africa Forum, hosted by Brand South Africa, to ‘assess and leverage the impact the equity of the first World Cup in Africa for the African brand’.
Since then, the non-profit focuses on promoting and celebrating African excellence to counteract the negative and misinformed stereotypes and perceptions that continue to damage the continent economically. Its flagship programme, the annual Brand Africa 100: Africa's Best Brands' initiative, ranks the most admired brands across the continent, and analyses their popularity against their global counterparts. The research, in partnership with Kantar and Geopoll, is the only and most cited study and reference of brands in Africa and has become an influential annual benchmark of excellence for brands operating on the continent.
In 2020 Thebe founded the Africa Brand Leadership Academy (ABLA) to identify and grow a network of talented youth leaders to create lasting social impact and contribute to the growth of the continent. In 2021 he completed his Master of Laws (LL.M) at the University of Turin in collaboration with the World Intellectual Property (WIPO), the United Nations special agency on Intellectual Property. He subsequently created Africa Intellectual Property Partners, a law advisory practice that ‘protects, manages and enforces’ intellectual property rights in Africa.
Thebe has been a frequent speaker at forums such as the World Economic Forum and the African Union, where he advocates for an ‘Africa first’ approach, urging African leaders to create their own narratives about their people, places and products, and to determine their own agenda.
He has received over 75 awards for his contributions to branding and leadership since he was first awarded by Marquette University American Marketing Association for marketing excellence upon graduation in 1992. His many accolades include being recognised as one of the ‘100 Most Influential Africans’ by New African Magazine in 2013 and 2015, and one of ’50 African Titans’ by the UAE’s Networking Group in 2022 and ‘Most Reputable Africans’ by UK’s Reputation International in 2023. In 2021 he received the Lifetime Achievement Award from South Africa’s Financial Mail and in 2022 the Lifetime Achievement Award from the Public Relations Institute of Southern Africa. He was was honoured as one of ‘100 Most Influential Creative People of African Descent’ by the United Nations in the International Year of the Creative Economy for Sustainable Development in 2021.
In 2023 Thebe received an EMY Africa Special Recognition Award in Ghana for driving a brand-led African agenda and in 2024, Thebe was awarded two honorary doctoral degrees, from the University of South Africa and the University of Johannesburg respectively, for exceptional contributions to branding in Africa.
He has served on diverse private and public sector boards for over 25 years, including Mercantile Bank (15 years), South African Tourism (10 years), World Wide Fund for Nature (WWF) (10 years) and Foodcorp (3 years). He is a member of the Sol Plaatje University council, PSI board and WWF Nedbank Green Trust.
In his book, The Traveller, launched in October 2024, Thebe writes about the evolution of his marketing career, from his early studies to the ‘great African adventure’ that led him to ‘discover the true spirit and identity of the continent’ when he travelled to every single country in Africa. Globally he has travelled to 120 countries and every continent in the world, from the Arctic in Greenland to Antarctica. These travels have been beautifully captured in an online archive of photos, alphabetically organised by country and include adventures like trekking with the rare silverback gorillas on the Virunga mountains in Rwanda and Uganda and summitting Mt. Kilimanjaro in Tanzania, Mt. Sinai in Egypt and Mt. Elbrus in Russia.
'While it sounds exciting to say I've travelled from the Cape to Cairo, and from the South Pole in Antarctica to the North Pole in Greenland, there was ultimately a greater purpose. As Jessica Nabongo, who travelled to every UN member country in the world noted, few black people have taken these roads less travelled. 'We're so used to seeing the world through the lens of white men,' she said. 'There's obviously some uniqueness in the experiences that we have, as we exist in the world, as very different people.' (Thebe Ikalafeng, excerpt from The Traveller)
2 Episode Description
Meet the founder of Brand Africa, Dr Thebe Ikalafeng.
Once decked out in immaculate corporate suits, he is now a walking celebration of African creativity and haute couture, a mentor to many a young talented creative bubbling up through the entrepreneurial ranks and a passionate promoter and protector of all things branded African.
Much is written and broadcast about this award-winning marketer. But now he has written a book in which he is the teller of his marketing tales and his turn away from corporate and big brand marketing towards marketing an entire continent. This episode delves into some of the key moments that marked this journey.
We cover his pursuit of excellence from an early age, his ‘almost career’ as an accountant, studies in the United States before South Africa became a democracy and why when destiny calls, your only job is to listen and follow.
We explore his time as Nike’s Chief Marketing Officer for Africa, and why he turned his back on some big money in the corporate world to focus solely on promoting African brands.
We then dig deeper into what a brand-led African Renaissance means, why it is so important for African leaders to ‘put Africa first’ and rally behind a 'Buy Africa Act' that is currently in draft form.
We also cover the founding of his organisation Brand Africa, and the insights of its flagship programme, the Brand Africa 100 survey (and how he created it from scratch) and why the survey consistently has shown ‘how Africans say one thing, and do another’ instead of buying African products.
He emphasizes the importance of visiting African countries for oneself, and why he decided to visit every single country on the continent following a conversation with Samsung Africa CEO KK Parks.
Thebe does not suffer fools lightly and looks to a future filled with action, rather than backward, in regret. Asked about where he gets the energy from to do what he does, he laughed and said, ‘You sleep when you’re dead.’ He is a whirlwind of action, who epitomises his own mantra.
Through his travels, his organisations, his insights and regular talks, Thebe has shown us all another side of what happens up and down the continent, and is one of the most passionate and knowledgeable advocates for African brands you will ever meet.
Settle in for a fantastic listen to the life of the Traveller of Africa and the globe, Dr Thebe Ikalafeng.
3 Show Notes
00:00:53 The Springboks - known locally as The Bokke (Afrikaans for The (Spring)Bucks) - is the name of the South African national rugby team. They made their World Cup debut in 1995 when the newly democratic SA hosted the tournament in their country. The team, under the captaincy of Francois Pienaar, defeated the All Blacks in the final (15-12), a moment which is remembered as one of the greatest in SA's sporting history. The movie Invictus, starring Matt Damon as team captain Pienaar and Morgan Freeman as Nelson Mandela, captured the run-up to the winning moment. The movie was based on the 2008 book Playing the Enemy: Nelson Mandela and the Game That Made a Nation by British journalist and author John Carlin.
00:01:53 GQ Magazine (South Africa): Industry Icon of the Year
00:02:07 Thebe's Instagram account
00:02:15 Thebe Ikalafeng launched his book The Traveller in October 2024.
00:03:35 The Jupiter Drawing Room closed its doors after 30 years in business and helped launched a 100% black owned agency called Black Powder (as in 'gunpowder') shortly after.
00:05:21 'Chariots of Fire' Nike ad
00:05:27 Rassie Erasmus is the coach of South Africa’s national rugby team, the Springboks. Erasmus played for the Springboks as a loose forward in 36 Tests between 1997 and 2001 and also captained his country on one occasion, against the Wallabies in 1999. He is renowned for his innovative coaching strategies and passionate leadership, which culminated in South Africa's 2019 Rugby World Cup victory.
00:05:46 Graham Warsop was the founder and chair of the Jupiter Drawing Room and was inducted into the Loeries Hall of Fame in September 2013 for the contribution he ‘made to the South African industry over the past 25 years, and the role that he has played in shaping its reputation globally’.
00:06:30 Keith Rose founded Velocity Films with US producer Barry Munchick in 1990, a production company that was responsible for some of South Africa’s most memorable ads, including the iconic Chapman's Peak ad for Mercedes-Benz, and the mouse on the steering wheel ad for BMW.
00:07:42 1981 Academy Award winner Best Original score, Vangelis' Chariots of Fire
00:08:18 Thebe was awarded for his 'Aptitude in Marketing' at the American Marketing Association Awards for Students at Marquette University in the United Sates in 1993.
00:10:33 Mandela walking with his wife Winnie Mandela on the day of his release from prison on 11 February, 1990 after 27 years of being imprisoned for opposing South Africa's apartheid system.
00:11:25 Urgency around 1994: On the 27 April 1994 South Africans voted in the country's first democratic elections in which South Africans of all races could vote. In that election, Nelson Mandela was sworn in as president on 10 May 1994.
00:14:39 South African Breweries Limited (SAB Limited) and hotelier, Sol Kerzner, partnered to create Southern Sun Hotels (Southern Sun), the largest hotel group in the southern hemisphere at the time. Southern Sun commenced operations with six hotels, including the iconic Beverly Hills Hotel in uMhlanga Rocks, Durban, and was subsequently involved in the development of many of the most prestigious hotels of the era, including the Cape Sun, Sandton Sun and Sun City. Southern Sun expanded through the acquisition and development of hotels in South Africa and neighbouring countries, throughout the 1970s and early 1980s. The casino interests of Southern Sun, including the newly built Sun City operations, were separated from its hotel business into what later became Sun International.
00:17:39 MTN is Africa’s largest mobile network operator providing voice, data, fintech, digital, enterprise, wholesale and API services to 288 million customers in 17 markets.
00:18:07 Vodacom is a leading African connectivity, digital and financial services company. The Group, including Safaricom, serves over 200 million customers spanning the consumer and enterprise segments. From its roots in South Africa, it has grown to include operations in the DRC, Egypt, Ethiopia, Kenya, Lesotho, Mozambique, and Tanzania. Its mobile networks cover a total population of over 500 million people. Vodacom is majority-owned by Vodafone (65.1% holding), one of the world’s largest communications companies by revenue.
00:22:12 Unisa's roots (and by extension, that of higher education in South Africa) date back to 1873 when the University of the Cape of Good Hope was founded, initially functioning as an examining body in the British colony for higher education. In 1916, the university changed its name to the University of South Africa and in 1918 it relocated to Pretoria. In 1946, it became one of the first public universities in the world to teach exclusively by means of distance education.
00:22:21 Standard Bank Group is a commercial bank headquartered in Johannesburg, South Africa. The bank was founded in 1862 as a South African subsidiary of the British overseas bank Standard Bank, under the name Standard Bank of South Africa. Standard Bank Group is the largest African bank by assets and earnings. and has a presence in over 20 sub-Saharan African countries, four global centres, and two offshore hubs, with a focus on emerging markets
00:22:58 Professor Stella Nkomo is a Professor in the Department of Human Resource Management in the Faculty of Economic and Management Sciences at the University of Pretoria. She holds an MBA and Ph.D. in Business Administration. Professor Nkomo is a former Scholar-in-Residence at the Bunting Institute of Harvard University and Visiting Scholar at the Tuck Business School of Dartmouth College (USA). Her internationally recognized research on diversity, human resource management, and leadership and in organizations has been published in numerous journals and edited volumes.
00:25:50 Professor Barney Pityana is a South African human rights lawyer and theologian who served as the Principal and Vice-Chancellor of Unisa from 2001 to 2010. He was one of founding members of the South African Students' Organisation, and an important figure in the Black Consciousness Movement with Steve Biko, a popular voice of Black liberation in South Africa between the mid 1960s and his death in police detention in 1977.
00:26:09 The FIFA 2010 World Cup was held in South Africa from 11 June to 10 July 2010.
00:26:18 “The African story, like its history, has always been left to the world to interpret and shape. This initiative is about Africa shaping its own destiny,” said founder of the Brand Africa initiative, Thebe Ikalafeng. Brand Africa Forum Press Release, 2010 on the inaugural Brand Africa Forum in 2010.
00:26:46 Jay Naidoo is a prominent South African anti-apartheid activist, trade unionist, and politician. He played a crucial role in the struggle against apartheid as the founding general secretary of the Congress of South African Trade Unions (COSATU) and later served as a minister in Nelson Mandela's government.
00:27:34 London-based Kantar is the world's leading marketing data and analytics business and an indispensable brand partner to the world's top companies, including 96 of the world's 100 biggest advertisers.
00:28:26 brand-led African Renaissance Ikalafeng, T. (2021). Inspiring a brand-led African revolution. In Dinnie, K. “Nation Branding – Concepts, Issues, Practice.” (Third Edition). United Kingdom: Routledge., pp AND Ikalafeng, T. (2021). Brand Africa 100: Africa’s Best Brands – A 10 year Reflection on Brands that are driving the African Renaissance. In:Kgomoeswana, V. ”Africa Bounces Back.” South Africa: McMillan., pp 427 – 434
00:29:18 Anholt & Co. is Simon Anholt’s government advisory practice. Over the last twenty years, the firm has worked with the presidents, prime ministers, monarchs and governments of over 60 countries, cities and regions, as well as their tourist boards, trade and investment promotion agencies, cultural departments and other state and non-state bodies, helping them to engage more productively and imaginatively with the international community.
00:31:28 Dangote Cement is a Nigerian Cement manufacturer and is the largest cement manufacturer in sub-Saharan Africa. It is known for quality, innovation and a strategic approach to sustainability Dangote Cement Plc (DCP) is a Nigerian cement manufacturer and distributor that operates in many countries across Africa Dangote Industries Limited is a diversified and fully integrated conglomerate with an annual group turnover in excess of US$4 billion (2016) with vibrant operations in Nigeria and Africa across a wide range of sectors including cement, sugar, salt, condiments, packaging, energy, port operations, fertilizer, and petrochemicals. Aliko Dangote, a Nigerian businessman and philanthropist, is the founder and CEO of the Dangote Group conglomerate Aliko Dangote, Africa's richest person, founded and chairs Dangote Cement, the continent's largest cement producer with a real time net worth of $11.1 bn
00:32:20 Brand Africa 100 - view the Top 100 most admired brands in Africa in 2024. Brand Africa was launched in 2010 with a Brand Africa FORUM, an international gathering of global and African decision makers, thought-leaders, influencers and youth on 16 September 2010 in South Africa immediately post the 2010 FIFA World Cup. The agenda of the first Brand Africa FORUM was to assess the impact of and leverage the equity of the first World Cup in Africa for the African brand.
00:32:46 GeoPoll 'provides remote, mobile-based research solutions throughout Africa, Asia, and Latin America, and is the global leader in revolutionizing data collection across the three continents. Since their inception in 2012, when they pioneered the first mass survey in the Democratic Republic of Congo via text message, GeoPoll has continuously evolved to deliver unparalleled data quality to humanitarian organizations, governments, and leading brands.'
00:35:38 Dr Ali Mazrui was a Kenyan-born American academic, professor and political writer on African and Islamic studies and North-South relations. With a Kenyan government scholarship, he completed his BA with distinction from Manchester University in Great Britain in 1960, his M.A. from Columbia University in New York in 1961, and his doctorate (DPhil) from Oxford University (Nuffield College) in 1966. After his studies he became Head of the Department of Political Science, Dean of the Faculty of Social Sciences and Dean of the Faculty of Law at the Makerere University in Kampala. He was forced into exile in the US in 1973 and worked at Stanford University for two years before moving to the Political Science Department at the University of Michigan, where he stayed for 17 years. In 1989, he was appointed to the Albert Schweitzer Chair in the Humanities at Binghamton University where he founded the Institute of Global Cultural Studies, of which he was the Director until he retired on 1 September 2014. He was a prolific writer, find a list of some of his writings here. He was awarded the Order of Companions of O.R. Tambo in Silver for 'his intellectual contribution focusing on Africa, Islam and North-South relations, and for putting the African continent on the pedestal, unearthing and laying bare the grandeur of Africa.' Ali Al'amin Mazrui died in New York, at the age of 81.
00:37:00 'Agenda 2063: The Africa We Want' is the African Union blueprint and master plan for transforming Africa.
00:38:09 The African Continental Free Trade Area (AfCFTA) was signed in Kigali, Rwanda on 21 March 2018, during the 10th Extraordinary Summit of the African Union (AU) Assembly of Heads of State and Government. The agreement was brokered by the AU and was signed by almost 50 AU member states. The signing ceremony was described as a historic moment for the continent. The agreement entered into force on May 30, 2019.
00:38:44 The original Buy American Act was passed in 1933 and applied to Federal Government buys for its own use, and applications within the US borders (i.e., an overseas naval base would not be under this provision). The law was primarily created in an attempt to restart the United States economy following the great depression. The Build America, Buy America (BABA) act was enacted in 2021 as part of the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA).
00:39:29 The book Epic in America was written by James Trulow Adams, an American writer and historian. He popularized the phrase the American Dream in his 1931 book The Epic of America.
00:40:30 How we got to Made in China
00:42:2 Amapiano is a South African music genre that combines elements of house, jazz, kwaito and lounge music. Amapiano originated in the townships of South Africa in the 2010s. The word amapiano is Zulu for 'the pianos'.
00:42:35 Maxhosa Africa is a South African knitwear brand founded in 2010 by Laduma Ngxokolo, originating in 'the desire to explore knitwear design solutions suitable for amakrwala (Xhosa initiates). The vision began by creating a modern Xhosa-inspired knitwear collection suitable for this market. Laduma, having gone through this process, felt compelled to develop premium knitwear in celebration of traditional Xhosa aesthetics.Through accessing and playing with the astonishing power of traditional Xhosa beadwork patterns, symbolism and colours, MAXHOSA AFRICA was born. The brand opened its first boutique in New York in February 2024.
00:42:45 Missoni is an Italian luxury fashion house known for its colorful knitwear designs founded by Ottavio and Rosita Missoni in 1953.
00:43:42 WIPO was established in Geneva in 1967 and provides services that enable creators, innovators and entrepreneurs to protect and promote their intellectual property (IP) across borders and acting as a forum for addressing IP issues.
00:45:31 Thebe founded the African Brand Leadership Academy in 2010 to 'sharpen brand leadership skills required to respond to African conditions'.
00:45:56 The Africa Intellectual Property Partners practice 'helps established and emerging businesses, creative community and individuals in Africa and beyond to identify their valuable brand assets, enforce their rights, and protect them against predatory, abusive and illegal abuse; to develop strategies to leverage and maximise those rights, and to develop policies for their acquisition, use and management.
00:49:43 The book The Prosperity Paradox: How Innovation Can Lift Nations Out of Poverty, was written by Clayton Christensen, Efosa Ojomo and Karen Dillon who posit that the right kind of innovation not only builds companies—but also builds countries. The Prosperity Paradox identifies the limits of common economic development models, which tend to be top-down efforts, and offers a new framework for economic growth based on entrepreneurship and market-creating innovation. Interested in more, listen to AfricanOptimist Episode #1 Efosa Ojomo - About the 'Prosperity Paradox', disruptive & market-creating innovations and why capital has to be patient in Africa
00:50:37 For more than 20 years, the Edelman Trust Barometer has 'studied the influence of trust across society — government, media, business, and NGOs — to shape conversation, drive results and earn action'.
00:55:34 L. Ron Hubbard was an American author and founder of Scientology, a controversial religious organization. His book Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health introduced his theories on the human mind and spirit.
00:55:47 Erma Bombeck 'became a household name in the 1970s and 1980s. She spoke for the women of an entire generation, revealing that being a housewife and a mother came with its own sets of concerns, and wasn’t necessarily a glamorous occupation. She wrote with hilarity and wit'.
00:56:48 KK Park served as the first president of Samsung Africa's headquarters for three and a half years. During his tenure, he began projects to help the company achieve its corporate social responsibility goal of impacting the lives of five million people across Africa by 2015.
00:57:27 An excerpt from Thabo Mbeki's opening speech at the Tourism Indaba held in 2003 in Durban. 'It would be very foolish for me to try to teach you, the delegates, anything about tourism. Rather, I would like to speak to you as a tourist - the beneficiary of the services that you offer. You will pardon me if I speak too much about South Africa. But it may be that what I might say might be of more general application. To let you into a secret, with the request that all of you keep this strictly to those of us who are in this hall, I have been considering asking our government to give me sabbatical leave for one year. I would then use these 12 months to tour South Africa and Africa. I would travel incognito, necessarily using an assumed name, which would be Wolfgang Schmidt, born somewhere in Bavaria, in the Federal Republic of Germany.' Mbeki goes on to what can only be described as a love letter to Africa, by listing all the places he would want to visit if he could go on sabbatical. Do yourself a favour and read the whole speech. It makes you understand how one-sided the regular reports on Africa are, and why Thebe took the decision to go see the continent for himself.
00:58:26 Chinua Achebe was a Nigerian novelist, poet, and critic who is regarded as a central figure of modern African literature. His first novel and magnum opus, Things Fall Apart (1958), occupies a pivotal place in African literature and remains the most widely studied, translated, and read African novel. Read this beautiful tribute from one of my favourite online platforms to understand his place in literature and the power of his voice and this, which I am so happy I stumbled upon.
4 Time Stamps
00:00 Introduction to the African Optimist Podcast
01:12 From Promoting Africa
01:33 Affirmations of African Identity
02:25 The Journey of Self-Discovery
02:55 The Book: A Different Perspective on Africa
03:31 Marketing Mastery with Nike
05:16 Iconic Campaigns and Creative Risks
07:41 A Passion for Marketing
09:32 Life and Studies Abroad
11:04 Returning to a New South Africa
12:36 Following One’s Destiny
16:39 Corporate Offers and Entrepreneurial Decisions
20:23 Building African Brands
26:06 Branding Africa: The World Cup and Beyond
27:06 Redefining Africa's Agenda Through Branding
28:20 The Power of Brands in Shaping National Identity
29:54 Challenges and Opportunities in Branding Africa
32:11 Establishing the Brand Africa 100 Metric
34:51 The Gap Between Trust in African Products and Buying African Products
37:58 The Importance of Intra-Africa Trade
40:00 Learning from Global Branding Success Stories
43:21 The Role of Intellectual Property in African Branding
45:11 Personal Contributions to African Branding
48:28 The Need for Political Will and Local Agenda-Setting
56:03 Thebe’s Journey Across Africa and Its Impact on him
59:53 Countering Negative Narratives with Optimism
01:01:51 Conclusion
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Videos
Why Africa isn't where it ought to be and what we need to do, Thebe Ikalafeng, TEDxAccra 2021
Watch the launch of the 2024 Brand Africa 100 event, presenting South Africa's Best Brands and the Top 30 Brands that have shaped South Africa's identity and competitiveness over the past 30 years.
Watch an interview with Thebe at the launch of Brand Africa in 2011.
Watch a collection of video interviews with Thebe on his website.
Magazine
DREAM IT, DO IT, Thebe Ikalafeng's African Odyssey, Your Luxury Africa, pp16-19, July 2023, Portraits by Trevor Stuurman
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highlights from the episode
'There were no surprises. There were affirmations. There were validations in my travel across the continent, and the affirmations were, we’re a truly proud people. We are an entrepreneurial people, we're a creative people, we're a welcoming people. I felt validated as an African.'
'I said, ‘Let's just make it simple. Let's ask Africans a simple question: What is your most admired brand? And we focus on admiration because admiration is anchored on a couple of things. Love what you love. Trust what you trust, and respect what you respect. That's admiration. So the things you admire, you admire them because you love them, you trust them and you respect them. So we said, let's use that as a metric, a simple metric.'
'64% of Africans believe in Africa, but only 20% buy Africa. So that stat to me has never escaped me from the time it started, 'cause it said, Africans say one thing, but they do another.'
And Jay Naidoo said at that forum, ‘Everybody has got an agenda for Africa, but Africa doesn't have an agenda for Africa.’
'All summits about Africa should be held in Africa. We should be going there, to their countries, to talk about what we can get out of them. They should be coming to ours on what they can get out of us, and it should be in equitable relationships. Right now, it's not equitable.'
Our job is to listen and our job is to watch. And our job is to read, because destiny is incredible. Destiny attracts you. There's a pull to destiny. You don't have to do much, you just have to follow.
'The African Union Building was built by the Chinese. The African Union programme is funded over 70% by the West and the East. There is no way in hell we're in charge of our agenda. Until we can create our own money, we'll never be able to change what I'm talking about.'
'I've always been the same person. I've never changed. I don't sell my achievements. I focus on results. I focus on change and results and telling stories that contribute to a better society.'
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